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Remote Presentations
by Don Singleton
APCUG Vice President

Abraham Maslow said “When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail”. He was right. You can drive a screw with a hammer, but it will not stay as solidly as if you put it in with a screwdriver. You can drive a nail by hitting it with a large pair of pliers, but a hammer does a better job. The best solution is to have a well stocked toolbox, and pick the proper tool for the job.

There are computer solutions that allow a person or many people at one location see the desktop of someone else, potentially a long way from them, but which tool is best depends on the particular job. When I first began working on my article Remote Presentations and Sharing (http://reports.apcug.org/2008q4/6.htm) in APCUG Reports Q4 and the corresponding program I remotely presented at the Midwest Regional in Chicago, I focused first on the one tool I knew: LogMeIn Free. It does the job, but it is really designed to allow remote access to an unattended computer (access a home computer from work, or a work computer from home), and there are other programs better suited to that job, and I presented three others: Adobe ConnectNow, Microsoft SharedView, and Lotus Unyte, and I continue to hear of others, and so I decided to write this follow up, sumarizing what job each tool is designed for, and what other jobs it might be employed in. I am still learning, and interested in hearing about other solutions, because I am presenting my Remote Programs presentation again at the Phoenix Regional Feb 8 and 9 and it will be very different from the one I gave at Midwest. The presentation I gave to HPCUG Huntsville PCUG, Tuesday, November 19, was different from what I gave at Midwest, as was the one I gave to Channel Islands PC Users Group, Saturday, December 13, and to SouthEastern Michigan Computer Organization, Sunday, December 14, and to Computer Club Oklahoma City Thursday, December 18.

Let me define a few terms:

House Call

House Call is where an inexperienced member of your user group that bought a program you described at an earlier meeting asks you to “come over to his house and show him how to make it work.” He may live an hour’s drive from your house, and it may only take you 1/2 hour to show him what he needs to know, so it would take 2 1/2 hours out of your life to provide 30 minutes of help, unless you can ask him to download one or two free programs, and use them to reach through cybespace and virtually show him your desktop, and talk him through the PPT Presentation you used when you gave the talk at your user group, or reach through cyberspace and virtually be able to see his desktop, and control his mouse and keyboard, and walk him step by step through how to use the program.

Any of the programs I describe could be used for House Calls, but currently I feel CrossLoop is the best tool for the job.

Two People Collaboration

I have a good friend, Paula Sanders, who reviews a number of programs, and sometimes she hits a stumbling block and wants to show me what she is seeing in the new program, and get my input. She is also a graphic expert, and frequently I will have problems doing something, and I will want her to look over my shoulder. We have found the best tool for that is also CrossLoop.

Three People Collaboration

An extension of the Two People Collaboration task is where you need a third person in the loop. CrossLoop is just between two people. Adobe ConnectNow is supposedly designed for that situation and it does have a unique meeting room URL, but I find it very difficult to use. Perhaps when it comes out of beta it will be easier, but if I needed to do a three-way collaberation today I would use Microsoft SharedView or Lotus Unyte.

Lecture Mode Presentation

This what I see the normal user group program to be. A presenter is showing a program or multiple programs on his computer, and the audience is watching what is on his screen, and may ask a few questions at the end of the presentation. This does not require any special software, other than what the presenter is presenting, but there are two distinct variations, and they have very different solutions:

Remote Presentation

In this variation of the Lecture Mode Presentation you have the normal user group audience watching the presentation on a screen in a meeting hall, but the Presenter is not in the hall; he may be at home in that city (a User Group member scheduled to deliver a presentation who suddenly gets sick or disabled and can’t make it to the meeting hall to deliver his presentation), or he may be clear across the country (a User Group member scheduled to deliver a presentation who suddenly has to travel on business, and who is delivering the presentation from his hotel room on their free wifi, or a member of another user group sharing his expertise with your user group.) This is the solution my Q4 article was focused on. My opinion is subject to change, but at this instant my preferred solution would be CrossLoop, Microsoft SharedView, or Lotus Unyte in that order (but all three are very good solutions).

Reaching the Home Bound members

In this variation of the Lecture Mode Presentation, the normal user group meeting is proceeding as it usually does, but we want to support some home bound members unable to attend the presentation in the meeting hall because of illness, disability, difficulty driving at night, or needing to travel, and watch from their homes or hotel room. The only audio requirement is they need to hear the speaker speak, and it they could ask qustions by typing them in, that would be nice. My personal opinion is that the Microsoft Live Meeting software that the APCUG is working on will be the best solution for this situation, although there is the possibility that Microsoft SharedView (which supports 15 connections) and Skype (which supposedly supports 25 people on a conference call, although I have heard that problems arise with more than 10), might work. With the Microsoft Live Meeting solution, a URL is provided that would just need to be posted on the group’s website. With the Microsoft SharedView / Skype solution someone at the meeting would need to send out the SharedView email messages, and call the at home people with Skype.

Recording and Posting

A second way of Reaching the Home Bound members would be to record the meeting and post it on the web page. This has the advantage of allowing it to be watched anytime, but it has the disadvantage of not being able to ask questions, even by typing them in. However this could be overcome by adding a meeting forum to the site so that people can discuss aspects of the meeting presentation afterwards.

The Huntsville PCUG (http://www.hpcug.com/) is currently working on this situation. They have found that a webcam does not allow people to see the screen well enough, and will be trying a better camera. My personal opinion is that the Microsoft Live Meeting APCUG is working on will be the best solution for them.

Collaberation Meetings

A collaberation meeting is one where many speakers are participating. It could be a Round Table meeting where everyone participates, or it could be a Panel Discussion, where multiple experts were sharing their ideas, while being watched by a larger audience that does not participate. There are variations on Collaberation Meetings.

Text Chat Rooms

For a number of years APCUG has had chat rooms on WebBoard (http://webboard.apcug.org:8080/~apcug) and we have even provided WebBoards to member user groups. But even if you did not get your own WebBoard, User Groups could use any of the boards set up for various reasons. You’d have to invite people to participate in the WebBoard conference – at least let them know that that’s where the discussions would take place, but nearly all of them are available for APCUG member’s use. You could even have one member connect using the mIRC program (http://www.mirc.com/) and get a capture of the entire meeting.

Audio Conferencing

With Skype supposedly 25 people can be on a conference call (http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=92), although I have heard people say it gets a bit iffy after 9 or 10 prople; with this one person would have to call each attendee. If they have Skype installed on their computer, the call would be free. If they have to call a phone number, it will cost a small amount. There are also many websites like http://www.freeconference.com/ offering free conference calls, where all of the participants pay long distance rates to call a certain number, and you have no control where that number is. These sites make their money based on fees the long distance companies pay to connect to that number. You can also use one of a number of Audio Conferencing companies (you might want to talk to Joe Budelis of Persimmon Telecommunications 609.333.6932 http://persimmon.homestead.com/). With these companies the callers call an 800 number, and your user group would pay based on how many lines were connected, and for how long.

Webcasting

Most webcasting services do video over the internet, and use a Audio Conferencing approach to the audio. Many may require you to do your audio conferencing through their service, but some may let you pick your own audio conferencing provider. For example MyMeetingCentral.com has Toll-free conferencing which starts at 9.9 cents per minute per line, and if you use a webcam they call that live video, and the rate jumps to 15 cents per minute per line. Audio alone is 9.9 cents per minute per line. You cannot use MyMeetingCentral without getting the audio from them. They will record the video /audio of you conference. The charge for that is $99 per conference. Audio is recorded anytime for free. The free recording of the conference includes all conference audio from all lines. The MP3 is available shortly after the call concludes within your account online.

Summary of what each product offers:

Unless indicated to the contrary, none of these free products, and none of the lesser expensive paid services include the ability to record. Also unless indicated they do not include audio. I use Skype for audio, but you could use a telephone conference call, an audio conferencing service, or an instant messaging program that supports Voice over IP (VoIP)

Adobe ConnectNow

Up to three participants can attend your meeting, including you as the host. Does not include audio. Unique meeting room URL so you can just prearrange with members to attend, or you can invite members with an email message. Does include audio. Chat pod for exchanging instant messages with one or all participants. Remote control - A meeting participant can take control of another participant’s desktop with permission. Frankly this is one of the most confusing to learn, but it is still in Beta, so it may get easier in the future.

For more participants, use (Acrobat Connect™ Standard US$39/month for 1 meeting room with up to 15 participants, but without integrated audio, and without the ability to record meetings) or (Acrobat Connect Pro Pay-per-use US $0.32/min/user or 5 user US $375.00/month or 10 user US $750.00/month, with integrated audio and VOIP and the ability to record meetings).

Microsoft SharedView

Up to 15 people (and I believe the presenter would be number 16). Handouts feature allows you to post a total of 25 files per session. Invite members with an email message.

For more, including Integrated PSTN and two-way VoIP audio, try Microsoft Office Live Meeting either Standard (up to 15 participant connections per meeting; minimum acquisition 5 users, $4.58 per user per month with no one-time fees, permits personal recordings) or Professional (up to 15 participant connections per meeting; minimum acquisition 5 users, $15.42 per user per month with no one-time fees, permits shared and personal recordings).

Unyte (IBM Lotus Sametime Unyte Share)

2 users (host + 1 viewer). Invite the other party with an email message. For $30 a year you can get a unique URL that does not change each time, so you can just prearrange someone to attend.

For $100/yr or $35/qtr you get 5 users (host + 4 viewers). For $300/yr or $100/qtr you get 10 users (host + 9 viewers). For $450/yr or $150/qtr you get 25 users (host + 24 viewers).

There is also Lotus Sametime Unyte Meeting which allows 15 people per meeting for $48 per month, 25 per meeting for $75 per month, or 999 per meeting for $999 per month, all of which have Toll-free Audio Conferencing Optional (additional charge of $.09 per minute, per caller), or pay per use which allows 125 per meeting for $0.25 per minute, Toll-free Audio Conferencing Included.

CrossLoop

Just between two people.

In Summary

Remote Presentations started with a program I did for the Midwest Regional. Since then I have remotely presented variations of this program for five User Groups and will be presenting a variation of it at the Phoenix Regional. Copies of each of the PPT files used with these presentations have been uploaded to the APCUG SharePoint Site in APCUG SharePoint > Shared Documents > Programs > Remote Presetations. Also included in that folder are copies of each of the APCUG Reports articles on this subject.